026: Sidezigs - Service Industry Uruk-Hai (w/ Joe and Jake)

We're back in the Satellite Studio where Phil and Joe, both veteran information workers, attempt to teach Jake, a recent coding boot camp initiate, about the weird, wild and wacky stuff that happens at big tech companies.  Also: the origin story of the Danish, North Korean propaganda cities.

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